should people fear the nra and why? where does this come from and why are they this untouchable group no one should challenge? >> there are 4 million members. they put their money where their mouth is, but in the last election cycle they didn't do well at all. they profiled certain senators for defeat and with the exception of one they all lost. they said that barack obama who has really been to call him cautious would be almost kind really silent on the issue. they said he would be a disaster. they lost with him. so i think that their political muscle has been very much diminished and whether it's been diminished or not people now who were formerly pro nra and were fearful of them are now ready to change their positions and vote against them. >> i want to move on and talk about the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner certainly taking a huge hit last week with his plan b proposal, didn't even get off the ground with his own party. where does this leave things now? >> in some ways boehner was prophetic and said only gods